When we looked at this house we knew that one of the main expenses was going to be sorting out the windows as we still have the original sash windows. Now having the original windows does sound great unfortunately the previous owners weren’t really big on upkeep consequently they seem to have considered it more important to paint yellow gloss over ceilng roses and not put any paint at all on window frames!
The house is close to the sea and on the top of a hill so very exposed to the elements and the lack of care has lead to all the windows suffering from some amount of decay, to the extent that when it rains the water leaks through the windows into the rooms!
Initially we looked into the possibility of repairing the windows and draft proofing them, there are a couple of companies that draft proof sash windows to reduce drafts and rattling so we started with quotes from them. We have 14 windows that need work and it was interesting to see that the 2 repair companies came back with similar prices but had different windows in the house as needing complete replacement. We were told that each window would take a day to fix and those that needed replacing would take 5-6 weeks to make before being installed. The quotes were really just estimates since many of the windows had been glued shut so a proper survey could not be done, this was a concern for us as the fitter might dismantle a window only to discover that it wasn’t repairable and then we’d have to wait another 6 weeks for the new sash window to be made. The estimates were coming in at the £9,500 mark but I could see this spiralling as things progressed and our budget just isn’t that large and needs to do the whole house not just some windows. The other problem with the repair option is that we live on a busy road and single glazing doesn’t cut road noise down enough for me (I’m a very light sleeper!).
So we then decided to get some quotes for new double glazing each company that came quoted for sash style windows and for ordinary windows that are divided up half and half to look slightly sash window but actually being push out windows.
What to consider when getting double glazing quotes:
1. How is the glazing fixed into the double glazing unit – internal or external beading?
It is very important to have internally beaded double glazing as it is very simple to remove the bead and pop out the glass to break into a home if the glazing is externally beaded. I thought this was pretty obvious but one firm tried telling me external beaded was fine, needless to say I immediately discounted them!
2. Do you need toughened glass?
This one is laid down by FENSA regulations and states that if the glass is within 80cm of the floor then it must be toughened, also if you have sliding sash windows and the top slides down to within that same distance of the floor then that needs to be toughened as well.
3. Window locking mechanism?
There are normally 2 types of locking mechanism for double glazed units the most common and probably cheapest to manufacture is that attached to the handle so when you close the handle 2 mushroom shaped metal pieces on the window slide into U shaped receivers on the window frame. The second type is also contnected to the handle and shoots bolts out each side of the window into holes in the frame. The best would of course be to have both types of locking system on every window and this is possible but the cost of manufacture is higher so many double glazing manufacturers only supply one type as standard. It is worth haggling getting both types for the same price.
4. How long will it take to manufacture the windows and how long is installation?
This seemed to be consistent between companies at 2-3 weeks to manufacture standard style windows and 5-6 weeks if you want the sash style double glazed windows. We were also quoted approximately 5 days to fit all 14 windows.
One important fact that we discovered after choosing our local double glazing firm to supply and fit our windows was that they intended just screwing the new windows into the existing wooden frame! Obviously this is not what I wanted since the wood it rotten on all the windows and they looked at me as if I was mad and being difficult when I said that I wasn’t happy with it being done that way. They then said they would have to come back another day to measure up and they would bring a revised quote then. However I decided that since they had seen the property twice and still seemed to think fitting new windows into rotten frames was an acceptable way of doing things I was not happy for them to work on my home.
So after that I had to find another company and I was much happier with the new firm and although they were more expesive at least I have confidence that they take pride in their work and will do a proper job. Luckily we hadn’t signed anything or paid a deposit with the first company as in the small print of most companies it says that once a deposit is paid you are liable for the full amount even if you cancel. So be careful and learn from my close shave!
We had the final measuring up done last thursday and hope to have all the windows installed by May….just as the weather improves and draft proofing won’t be such an issue!